Canon’s EOS 80D – What Does It Mean For the Future of Video on Canon DSLRs?

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With the release of the Canon EOS 80D, I'm wondering what the future is for Canon DSLRs with regard to video… so I thought I'd share.

Many of you are disappointed that Canon has not put 4k video into any of their lower-priced cameras and have said that you were moving to another brand. And my suspicion is that Canon is okay with that!

Let's look at another example in a different industry. Apple.

It has become very obvious that Apple is now a consumer company. Sure, they have of a few remaining “pro” items. But they have also terminated pro software like Aperture to focus on consumer level products.

I believe, this is exactly what Canon's doing with their DSLRs.

Yes, they do still have a “pro” line of video cameras in their Cinema EOS line and added 4k video to the Canon EOS-1D X Mark II, but that's probably as “low” as 4k will go (at least for a while) in their consumer DSLR line.

To them, and I think in many ways to most people, 4k video is still not a requirement.

Of course we're still left to wonder whether are the next Canon 5D will have 4K video. After all, it is a “pro” camera isn't it? But with the Canon EOS-1D X Mark II having 4K video, I suspect that the 5D will not. I would love to be surprised however.

The Canon EOS 80D does herald a new level of “pro” video features in a more consumer oriented DSLR. And that can only be good for everyone.

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Video on the 80D

Just have a look at these samples created on the 80D released yesterday by Canon. They're clearly aimed at improving video for consumers and tho they don't mention things like smartphones, these demos are attempting to show how awesome Dual-Pixel AF is for moms, pops, and everyday lovers

and their behind-the-scenes

I love Dual-Pixel AF and the improvements are fantastic.

Here's another sample:

And the accessories they released yesterday, the new mic Canon DM-E1 and power zoom PZ-E1 both lean very heavily toward consumers!

missing in action!

Again, most of you will say 4K is sadly missing.

What I think is most sadly missing compared to other brands in the market is sensor stabilization! Look at Panasonic, Sony, and Olympus. They all have 3 or 5-axis sensor stabilization.

Why not Canon?

My suspicion is that they want to sell more lenses, more expensive lenses with image stabilization in them. Putting stabilization on the sensor or in the body means that you don't need expensive IS lenses.

We all know the canon makes most money on lenses right?

So why would they cannibalize lens sales by putting stabilization in the body? I don't think they would… not any time soon at least.

Canon is still number one in lens and camera sales and with brand loyalty, most consumers and most pros will stick with them. Heck, I haven't switched. I like the look and feel of images and video on my Canon EOS 5D Mark III.

Tho the article we published yesterday on the Sony A7r II sure is tempting me, I've used Sony and frankly their menu system scares me. But, I'm tempted and will investigate more.

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Future?

So, what you think? Is Canon headed down the right path?

My wish for the future?

I would like to see canon put out an awesome mirrorless camera. Something revolutionary instead of just matching the opposition (tho that will be hard to do compared to the Sony A7s Mark II for example). Will we get that? We can dream right? canonrumors says we'll get more cameras this year from Canon than any other year so maybe we're in luck.

Will we get sensor stabilization? 4k in lower cameras? I doubt it – and again I believe Canon is going to be fine as well.

(cover photo credit: snap from Canon)


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Comments

  1. marccorbi

    apart from a few people like you, who is interested in 4K videos ? facebook is maximum in 2k, smartphones owner’s won’t like if they are obliged to watch 4K videos.. Panasonic and Sony are going down in Japanese mirrorless market while Canon is growing to n°3 in that market. 
    Most of people prefer to share 720p or 1080p which are much more comfortable to use and publish.

  2. JonDoss

    I think we’ll see 4K video in the 5D Mark IV, but I think they will omit both the 60fps in 4K and 120fps in 1080p that you get with the 1DX Mark II.

  3. Reyfox

    marccorbi Really. I don’t know where you get your information about Panasonic and Sony going down in Japan. Post that info link please. 
    Here is one that is in the largest camera market, the US: www.dpreview.com/articles/6223902518/sony-rides-wave-of-us-mirrorless-sales-surge
    While DSLR sales have been dropping, mirrorless has stayed constant. Saying “most people prefer to shoot at 720p or 1080p” is because that is what they own. Anyone can see the difference even on youtube between a 1080 video and a 4K one, even on a 1080 monitor. 
    You can shoot with whatever you want, but blanket statements that have no basis is spreading wrong information.
    Between 2012 and 2015, volume sales for DSLR’s is almost in half.

  4. planetMitch

    Reyfox oh I watch 4k on my 5k retina iMac whenever I can – but for my needs, I don’t need 4k. I shoot “reviews” or tips and stuff… I’m not a filmmaker and what people need from me isn’t 4k.

  5. Reyfox

    planetMitch understood. Thanks for getting back. And thanks for the website and all you guys do. Awesome job!

  6. William Sommerwerck

    Please explain why every camera body in a company’s product line is obliged to offer a “professional” video format.

    I’m basically a stills photographer. (I assume most amateur photographers are.) Having 1080p video is nice, but it’s not a deal-maker or breaker for me.

    This is typical Japanese product design — jam every possible feature into a product, whether it’s needed or not, whether it’s properly implemented or not, whether the crummy instruction manual supports it intelligently.

  7. gordalder

    I have already left Canon, and spent more money on my first mirrorless camera than on any previous Canon DLSR. I am an amateur that shoots both video and photos, and find the 4K essential. I may publish at 1080p but use software stabilization, and zoom on the 4K so I can retain quality. Sorry Canon, you have abandoned the amateur video shooter, good luck.

  8. FrankSuero

    I am just tire of CANON showing videos with a lot of production in the back and them people do not get what they show. I personal moved to Sony and I am happy, not hipe and not waiting for things that takes years on the canon side to appear. Just not buying the canon sell stuff any more.

  9. marccorbi

    FrankSuero 
    I am just surprised .. but till now Canon is something all the time before Sony with real new features… Canon made :
    -> FullFrame format like a “must have” and really popular around the world with the 5DII ..
    -> High Iso really usable and very popular with the 1Dx and 6D  for years, 
    -> Canon have the most efficient AF system for action sport with  unique Dual Cross -f/2.8 AF points 
    -> Canon is selling for years the most popular APSC format with the 7D &7DII 
    -> Canon have the sharpest sensor with the 5Dsr (as far we can see 5Dsr is trusting 60% or more of 100 sharpest lenses available in Dxomarks (sony less tthan 5), 
    -> and now with the dual pixel 1Dx 80D 1DC, AF will reach highest level available for videos and no pumping.
    .

    As far as I know .. Sony is always running behind Canon .. and when we have a look of exif available in latest contests of national geographic and worldpress 2016 .. Sony is almost non existent in the best pictures published ..
    www.theatlantic.com/photo/2016/02/winners-of-the-2016-world-press-photo-contest/463431/
    petapixel.com/2015/12/29/here-are-the-winning-photos-of-the-2015-national-geographic-photo-contest/
    almost all exif available in those links 

    I imagine that photographs need more and cleaner high iso, perfect AF, perfect light measuring….. than HDR features like sony would like us to try to compress 14EV dynamic in 8EV jpg format or 10 EV best available monitors. 
    And what about 4K usability ? when lenses are so far behind in sharpness quality ?

  10. Enno

    planetMitch marccorbi My experience is totally different. While 3 years ago the demand of 4K content was about 30%, last year it was 70% and all the contacts we have this year are elusive in 4K. All previews clients were very happy with the extra quality offered by 4K and were happy to pay a little extra for it.

  11. Calaverasgrande

    4k is overrated. 
    I make my own video productions in 1080p because I’m not trying to get on big screens for one.
    But mainly because 4k takes up a ton of space, and eats a ton of CPU.
    Try putting some grading and effects on your 4k footage and watch those renders stretch into hours. 
    (and your playback crawl.)
    I’m pretty enthusiastic about this camera if the video is truly 90mbps which sounds like 4:2:2 or 4:2:1. There also seem to be some more access to video quality settings than previous enthusiast cameras.

  12. francesco doglio

    Hello, I’m an italian journalist and I think the 80d is just perfect for me. Here’s why. I got a 6d for lowlight photography and a bounch of good lenses. Now I got a 70d wich is perfect for the video job and daylight stills but lacks on a headphone jack and a function for timelapeses. now the 80d has both. Why do I have to switch to sony or to buy a 5dIII? No way :D (Ps. I tried a sony a7s, It’s a cool tool but imo just a cool tool, not a useful one)

  13. TimR

    Right now at B&H, under professional camcorders, there are 65 HD models for sale (JVC, Sony, Panasonic, etc) and 10 4K models. And since I doubt many consumers are still buying these kinds of cameras for casual use, that means there must still be a lot of professionals still wanting regular old HD (they can’t ALL be totally stupid). There are many different markets for professional video, and just as many different cameras to fill their needs. Stills shooters wanting to stick with DSLR/Mirrorless form factor that they know for video are growing, but are by no means the only game in town.

  14. Mickey Flynn

    Useless article. Misleading title giving the impression the author was about to discuss the level of quality of video in the 80D…….waste of space… and time.

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